“At last Treasury yields are rising,” Bloomberg’s Paul Dobson writes, projecting what he imagines might be going through the heads of macro strategists the world over.

“A glance over the latest weeklies suggests many of them are getting really cheesed off with the government bond market [and] JPMorgan is perhaps the most explicit,” Dobson adds, before quoting the bank as follows:

Markets are all over the place. We can’t fully make sense of this line up … The bond rally in particular is out of line with other markets and with how we read the fundamentals.

I guess. Although if you kind of step back from your models and just think about the level of indeterminacy around the fiscal agenda in the U.S., think about the fact that Donald Trump is President, think about the lackluster incoming inflation data, and add in a safe haven bid tied to North Korea for good measure, it’s pretty easy to explain 10Y yields below 2%.

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And while we’re not there yet, Bloomberg’s Wes Goodman notes that calls for yields to rise from here may not be any more right this time than they have been in the past. Here’s why….

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After the U.S. 10-year yield fell to just above 2%, what’s next? It’d be easy to say it should snap back to a range of 2.3% to 2.5%, especially after it jumped at Monday’s open. But that’d be too boring. That’s the consensus view. And keep in mind the consensus calling for higher yields has been wrong for years. Here are the reasons the world benchmark for borrowing costs can drop below 2%.

  • Minneapolis Fed President Neel Kashkari says Federal Reserve interest-rate increases may be “doing real harm” to the U.S. economy. The hikes may be slowing jobs growth, leaving people on the sidelines and curbing inflation, Kashkari said earlier this month
  • By this reasoning, even another Fed rate hike this year would help Treasuries. After all, yields have tended to head lower as the central bank pushes its benchmark higher
  • And inflation is already going the wrong way. Pimco’s Dan Ivascyn said in June that slowing inflation opened the possibility the 10-year yield would decline to 1.5%
  • Treasuries demand is also likely to be supported by softness in other markets. U.S. assets such as real estate, stocks and junk bonds are at risk as the Fed unwinds its quantitative easing program, says Yusuke Ito at Asset Management One in Tokyo. The Fed’s decade-long effort to push interest rates down aimed to channel money to these assets, and they’re in jeopardy now as policy makers begin to dismantle the program, he said
  • Japanification is transforming America too: An aging population will curb economic growth, rising welfare costs are limiting room for fiscal stimulus and banks are hoarding bonds instead of funneling money into loans
  • North Korea is keeping demand for haven assets alive
  • While it’d be easy to go with the consensus for higher yields, the case for a further push lower isn’t too shabby. And it’s usually been correct over the past 30 years